The "514" name means what??

If I'm remembering correctly, pretty much all that has been said about the number is that it is connected to something in existing EVE PF. Not something yet to be introduced or something that lies outside EVE but something actually already in the game lore somewhere.

Assuming they're not just bullshitting to get people talking about it, the only solid lead I could find is this:

"Which test reveals more of the soul, the test that a man will take to prove his faith, or the test that finds the man who believed his faith already proven? If you know this answer, then you also know which of these challenges bear the greatest penalty for failure. The gates of paradise will open for you one time only; woe to the soul who dares to knock twice."
- The Scriptures, Book of Missions 5:14

The most obvious thing is that the number fits, which is a nice start.

The other notable bit is the knocking on the gates of Paradise part at the end. That could (and has been) made to reference cloning over the years. There are several references in PF elsewhere (eg Amarr Succession, Godflesh) that say that, for the upper levels of Amarr society at least, cloning was a bad thing to such a degree it is tantamount to blasphemy. Royal flesh is sacred and most of the nobles will either be related to the royals (no matter how distantly) or want to claim they are. That bit of the amarr scriptures has been used to reinforce that plenty of times in the past.

Now though we have a cloned Empress (although perhaps she's officially "miraculous") and devs have said that in terms of background, Dust will be kicked off by awesome new cloning breakthroughs (to explain respawning in an FPS) which will be introduced into the EVE universe proper, partly via the upcoming book. Also the Kor-Azor heir was sliced and diced not so long ago and kept alive purely by cloning (albeit not full body) for being a naughty boy, so altogether presumably cloning isn't as bad as it used to be. So you've got a bit of scripture that has been used in relation to cloning, talks about the sort of generic challenges and tests found in any good game trailer, has a scriptures chapter an verse number that matches the Dust number and Dust itself which will be foreshadowed in EVE by events relating to new cloning tech and then be filled by all sorts of happy dusties blowing each other up and respawning courtesy of that cloning tech.

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/edit On rereading the last post, there isn't a bible but the Amarr do have shittonnes of Scriptures. (Enough to fill stations with - there is no handy book containing them all in the style of the bible.) Have a link to the official eve wiki page which has all of them mentioned to date. (They're usually mentioned in passing in chronicles, on game items (eg the Avatar ship description) and events when they used to happen.)

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Nice to see an ingame relevance to 5:14. And this is exactly what I meant by no bible verse, which people had made reference to the christian bible, meaning out of game, and I unfortunately hadn't found much of the amarr scriptures. This is a nice find. I'll look into it more.

5 RACES 14 BLOODLINES = 514

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[quote=&quot;StealthZ117&quot;:2kanlbiq]What 514 could mean is the 5 races and 14 bloodlines of the EVE universe.

CCP said that its meaning was EVE related and this sounds like a good possibility to the meaning of 'Dust 514'.[/quote]

Don't forget the Starkmanir, If you do the math it doesn't add to 14, though good theory. And the systems wont work either, because there is more then 514 null sec systems.

Dust would obviously denote ground troops. Think of a Dust Off in military maneuvers. 514 I would think as others said w/my own theories, the following:
-Drug
-Unit - storyline
-Release date? HAHA I wish.
-Concord Bi-Law allowing ground based military actions?
-514 combat zones - would ruin expansions
-Dust trooper linguo - sorta like FUBAR etc, or police/fire using a &quot;### in progress&quot;
-Any mixture of all of these

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As far as a 5:14 bible verse that pertains to dust, there is none in any of the books of Canonical Gospels, Apostolic History, General Epistles, Major prophets, Wisdom books, Historical books, or Pentateuch.

However, in the Pauline Epistles:

Ephesians 5:14 - &quot;Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead.&quot;

-Clearly can relate to cloning and reaching immortality.

And in the book of Apocalypse:

Revelation 5:14 - &quot;And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.&quot;

-This one is a little more vague, but four beasts could be the four races, twenty four elders could be a male and female from each of the 12 blood lines in eve. And then again we have a reference to immortality.

As for the 514 low sec systems myth:

There are 5431 K-systems and 2499 W-systems- Because W systems are null sec that puts the 514 0.0 system theory out the window already, but for more proof there is 1090 H-systems and 817 L-systems subtract that from the 5431 K-systems you get 3524 0.0 systems so there are 6023 0.0 systems total. Roughly 11 times more than 514...

However, there are 514 Jovian Empire systems.

just some food for thought.

The developer guy said that the number was linked to the cloning process. Nothing else.

[quote=&quot;Da Chucky&quot;:g65hmmnd][quote=&quot;Trentest0&quot;:g65hmmnd]The developer guy said that the number was linked to the cloning process. Nothing else.[/quote]

You sure? If so, I really need you to post a source.[/quote]

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At 2.42, he says what it means, I quote 'The number 514 actually relates to that (the cloning element) a little bit, but we're not going to give that away just yet'

He says 'a little bit', but I imagine it doesnt have much to do with anything else.

For anyone who was suggesting 514 was the number of null-sec systems (ie 0.0) in EvE, thats wrong, more like couple thousand null-sec systems. Its more likely it has something to do with what the above poster has mentioned.